键盘侠|末节弃用 威少已是角色球员球迷：底薪了还要黑？

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[Post Game Thread] Los Angeles Clippers defeat New York Knicks 106-95

[赛后贴] 洛杉矶快船队106-95战胜纽约尼克斯队

双方数据：

快船（36-33）：莱昂纳德38分4篮板2助攻，乔治22分8篮板8助攻，莫里斯11分5篮板，威少7分5篮板3助攻，戈登10分2篮板3助攻，祖巴茨8分6篮板，普拉姆利6分4篮板2帽，曼恩2分3助攻，巴图姆2分4篮板

尼克斯（39-30）：奎克利26分10篮板4助攻，兰德尔19分8篮板3助攻，巴雷特11分2篮板，罗宾逊6分14篮板2帽，格莱姆斯7分4助攻，哈特10分8篮板4助攻，哈滕施泰因4分5篮板3助攻，托平10分5篮板

[–]NBAEarthWarping 13 指標 1小時前

Pretty standard great Kawhi game.

The Randle tech/foul at the end of the 3rd quarter changed the swing.

Interesting that Russ played a ton early, but Mann closed out the game. Wonder if that"s something the Clippers will use going forward.

球迷：

这是一场标准的小卡接管式比赛，兰德尔在第三节末的技犯改变了比赛势头。而有趣的一点是，虽然威少在前三节打了很久，但是整个第四节快船却完全用曼恩来终结比赛，不知道他们以后是不是会继续这么玩。

[–]LakersTenseiGate 1 指標 1小時前

It’d be nice for all of us to see Kawhi in the playoffs fully healthy the whole way. Dude is a certified killer.

湖人球迷：如果小卡能在季后赛完全保持健康，那将是全体球迷的福音~这小子简直是杀手再就业啊~

[–]ClippersJimmyV034 15 指標 1小時前

No Russ mins in 4th Q is doing wonders for us

快船球迷：没有威少的第四节，是充满奇迹的第四节~

[–][IND] Paul Georgewatdapau 9 指標 1小時前

Nah. 213 is just on fire this game

步行者乔治球迷：非也~只不过今天小卡和泡椒爆发了而已~

[–]ClippersJimmyV034 4 指標 1小時前

I mean thats true but also spacing looked great for them in 4th Q to do their thing. When Russ is playing teams are sagging off him

快船球迷：你说的也对~但是对卡椒来说，他们在第四节获得的场上空间确实棒极了~而当威少在场时，对手根本不鸟他。

[–]ClippersJimmyV034 -2 指標 1小時前

Personally im not a big fan of that Russ-PG-Kawhi mins together, 109 offensive rating before that game isnt good considering that both PG and Kawhi had great offensive rating when they play together.

快船球迷：我个人不是很喜欢威少和卡椒同时在场，他们三人同场时109的进攻效率并不出色，考虑到仅卡椒二人同场时，快船的进攻效率是非常牛逼的~

[–]LakersSw3atyGoalz 2 指標 1小時前

He’s only lost 1 game this season when he sat the fourth lol

E: Yea 7-1 in games with 23 minutes or less, jumps to 8-5 when he plays 25 minutes or less

湖人球迷：我来分享个数据，本赛季当威少第四节不上场时，他所在球队仅输了一场比赛。

补充：威少出战少于23分钟时，球队战绩7胜1负；但当他的出战时间调整为少于25分钟时，球队战绩立刻下滑到8胜5负了~

[–]ClippersShukiNathan 26 指標 2小時前

Randle had 2 more fgm than russ on 3 times the attempts lmao

快船球迷：我也来分享个数据，兰德尔的出手数（24次）是威少（8次）的三倍，但是命中数（5个）之比威少（3个）多2个，笑死我了~

[–]NuggetsStoopidDingus69 1 指標 1小時前

Is Julius randle even good? He’s 7th in mvp I’ve never been that impressed by him. Does he deserve that ranking?

掘金球迷：那兰德尔到底算不算打得好啊~虽然他MVP排第7，我怎么一点也感受不到他的存在感啊~他到底配不配上他的排名啊？

[–]ClippersThuduke -4 指標 1小時前

No handle randle vs westbrick. Match of the century

快船球迷：楼上的，这么跟你说吧，手残党兰德尔 VS 打铁匠威少，可称得上《你比我烂乎？》舞台上的世纪对决了~

[–][NBA] Best of 2021 Winnerurfaselol[S] 185 指標 1小時前

Russell Westbrook despite being bad did what the team needs him to do and be an innings eater. Playmaking and did a lot of duties that Pg and Kawhi would normally do for the full game. PG and Kawhi is a lot fresher at the end of games and can take over like they did today. Before the trade deadline they’d be gassed in the fourth

球迷：虽然打得差，但是威少至少做了球队需要他做的事，他负责组织，并为卡椒分担了很多工作。因此，就像今天这样，卡椒才有更多的体能去打末节，本来在交易日之前，他们俩经常在末节就精疲力尽了~

[–]Lakerslovo17 31 指標 1小時前

He should be coming off the bench too. Mann and Westbrook should be switching spots in the rotation.

湖人球迷：其实威少应该打替补的，曼恩和威少在场上的角色应该换过来~

[–]San Diego Clippersnick-thestripper 64 指標 1小時前

Westbrook"s doing fine as a starter. He gets the game off on a nice pace

快船球迷：威少打首发还OK啦~他能让快船以一个不错的节奏进入比赛呢~

[–]Clipperslsalomx -2 指標 1小時前

Well sort of except he’s the only guy consistently making lineups with 213 into slight +- negatives

快船球迷：但素，威少貌似是唯一一个和卡椒同场时，正负值有点负的球员诶~

[–]ClippersMVPG2022 24 指標 1小時前

He"s has a very positive net rating when sharing the court with just one of them. It"s small sample noise that the trio is underperforming.

快船球迷：当威少和卡椒其中一人同场时，他的效率值是很好的。说三巨头同场表现不好的声音其实不多~

[–]ClippersCogito3 6 指標 1小時前

i don"t think it"s entirely small sample size noise. when he"s playing with both of them he often stands in the corner while one of them does his thing, which is a total waste of his skillset. Russ with just one of 213 plus bench guys gets to do a lot more ballhandling.

快船球迷：我不觉得说三巨头同场效果不好的声音少，当威少和卡椒同场时，他经常就呆在某个角落，看卡椒他们自己玩，这样直接把他的能力给浪费了~当威少和卡椒其中一人以及其他角色球员同场时，他控球的时间就很长。

[–]Lakersclaydavisismyhero 4 指標 40 分鐘前

It’s easier to bench him in the 4th that way. Mann would he playing 24 straight minutes in the 2nd half

湖人球迷：像今天这样，第四节把威少放在板凳上，更加直接和还简单了。让曼恩直接打满下半场24分钟吧。

[–]Raptors2789334 2 指標 1小時前

I remember u doubted the fit too I told y’all it would work

猛龙球迷：我记得之前我说过（第四节让威少坐板凳）是很有效果的，你们还不信~

[–]Patrick BeverleyKiryuXGoro -14 指標 1 小時前

This is fucking stupid. If he can"t play the 4th then he shouldn"t be playing at all let alone starting.

贝弗利球迷：傻逼了吧~如果威少打不了第四节，那干脆别让他打了，也别让他首发啊！

[–]Raptors2789334 12 指標 1 小時前

Lol what? 99% of bench players don’t play heavy minutes in the 4th, should they all be cut from their rosters?

Do you understand the concept of a role player?

猛龙球迷：哈哈哈，啥？99%的替补球员都没法在第四节获得大量的上场时间，难道都把他们从阵容中移走吗？你明不明白角色球员的定义？

[–]Patrick BeverleyKiryuXGoro -4 指標 48 分前

Why is Westbrick starting then? He"s clearly not a role player.

贝弗利球迷：那威铁为什么能首发呢？很显然他不是角色球员啊~

[–]Raptors2789334 7 指標 45 分前

He is a role player lol “starter” and “bench player” are just terms that don’t have anything to do with how you play on the basketball court.

If he’s not playing substantial minutes, why does it matter where he is at tip off

猛龙球迷：哈哈威少就是角色球员。不管是“首发”还是“替补”，这和你在场上做什么事儿没有任何关系。如果威少得不到大量的上场时间，那和他是什么时候上场的又有什么关系呢？

[–]KingJTt -12 指標 1 小時前

If you have to bench a player the entire fourth to win games he isn’t a good player

球迷：如果你只能通过让某个球员整个四节坐板凳才能赢球，那么那个球员就不属于好球员的范畴。

[–]Handsome_Kian 16 指標 1 小時前

you guys are really desperate to shit on the guy aren"t you? he"s on a vet minimum contract.

球迷：你们这些家伙就只能靠黑威少而活着了是吗？他都已经是老将底薪了，还想怎么样？

[–]KingJTt -15 指標 1 小時前

Who’s shitting on him? He isn’t good. That’s the facts, numbers and the eye test can attribute to that.

球迷：谁黑他了？他确实打得不好了，这是事实，数据能证明，大家也都看在眼里的。

[–]Clipperslsalomx 1 指標 1 小時前

he’s definitely bad

快船球迷：威少确实打得烂了~

[–]KingJTt -2 指標 1 小時前

A Logical clippers fan right here

球迷：楼上的，是个理性的快船球迷~

[–]Clipperslsalomx 3 指標 1 小時前

I will say he’s a bit better than Wall

快船球迷：不过，我觉得他还是比沃尔要强一点。

[–]KingJTt -2 指標 1 小時前

It’s an observation. He’s bad. And that’s okay

球迷：有道理~威少确实打得不好，但是也还OK啦~

[–]WarriorsCurrymvp2 106 指標 1小時前*

Ty Lue has learned that Westbrook shouldn"t play more than 20ish minutes unless his jumper is on. Westbrook can still provide some very good playmaking and push the pace even when his jumper is off--which is why it"s fine for him to start, but he usually shouldn"t be closing 4th quarters.

勇士球迷：卢教练已经发现，不应该给威少20分钟的出场时间，除非哪天他投篮准了再说。威少仍然可以很好地完成组织工作，当他投篮不好的时候，他还能推进比赛的节奏，这就是为什么他可以首发，不过他经常在第四节掉链子的~

[–]Bullslburner220 7 指標 1小時前

I thought Mann should still start but after seeing it for a few games i think Russ starting is fine. You just absolutely need to have Mann on the floor to close and not Russ. Russ helps alot with the ball handling. Having PG and Kawhi play point all game wasn’t great. Now they need to figure out how to play defense again.

公牛球迷：本来以为曼恩仍然应该首发的，但是看了几场比赛之后，我觉得威少首发是OK的。不过当球队需要收比赛的时候，就把曼恩放在场上，而不是威少。威少在球队控球方面很有帮助，因为让卡椒整场比赛参与组织是很不好的。现在他们需要想想怎么把防守找回来了~

[–]LakersTallanoGoldDigger 8 指標 1小時前

God it took Vogel half the season to realize the same thing

湖人球迷：天哪~沃格尔可是用了半个赛季才搞清楚怎么用威少啊~

[–]Clipperstasyn123 24 指標 1小時前

I think he realized fairly early but it’s hard to bench a 40 million dollar guy you just acquired

快船球迷：我觉得沃格尔很早就知道该怎么用威少了，但是你总不能把刚刚交易过来的4000万放在板凳上不用吧~

[–]reddit-acct54321 [分數隱藏] 29 分鐘前

100% there was politics involved. It killed Vogel to play Westbrook, you could tell from the post game interviews lol guy didn’t bench him until he basically knew he was going to be fired

球迷：当时用威少，很明显有球队政治层面的因素~当时硬用威少，让沃格尔生不如死，你们可以从他当时的赛后采访中看出来，哈哈~这兄弟一直不敢让威少坐板凳，直到他发现，在那么下去自己就饭碗不保了~

[–]Daaamn_Man 3 指標 1小時前

I guess you can say Russ has learned not to shoot too much and do too much. He would have been missing layups and shots if he was still in the lakers so it’s good to see him be more introspective and adjust

球迷：我猜威少已经明白自己要少投篮，不要什么事都去做了。如果还在湖人队，他可能会继续无脑打铁，很欣慰他有在自省和调整~

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